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مقابلة صحفية مع أمنية نجم – راقصة باليه، كاتبة إعلانات وناشطة في مجال العمل التطوعي المدني

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صحافة: محمود منسي

الطلوع على المسرح ليه هيبته، لانه مش زي السينما. انت عارف انها يا بتصيب يا بتخيب، اللقطة أو طلوعك في المشهد هيتكرر مرة واحدة بس فلازم يطلع صح وده لوحده ضغط جامد.. أعضاء الفريق لازم يكونوا على وفاق اغلب الوقت ويهمهم نجاح العرض أكتر من النجاح الفردي لأن مفيش نجاح فردي طول ما الراقص\الراقصة بيرقصوا ضمن فريق..

أمنية نجم

مجلة ثورة الموارد البشرية: كجمهور بيروح للأوبرا ويحضر عرض الباليه بنستمتع بالعرض جدا بس بنكون مش عارفين الصعوبات والتحديات اللي بتمر بها فرقة الباليه. ممكن تحكيلنا على التحديات دي يا أمنية من خلال خبرتك في المجال؟

أمنية نجم: الناس بتفتكر ان دي حاجة سهلة جدا انك تقف علي مسرح بشكل خاص وانك ترقص باليه بشكل عام لكن ميعرفوش اني عشان اطلع علي المسرح لمدة نص ساعة ولا ساعة بمشاهد متقطعة، المشهد الواحد منهم عبارة عن دقيقة بالكتير بتدرب بال 6 و9 شهور بشكل مستمر وبتمرن لوحدي في البيت علي العرض وعلى اللياقة والمرونة البدنية بشكل عام وبراقب أكلي جدا.

الطلوع على المسرح ليه هيبته، لانه مش زي السينما. انت عارف انها يا بتصيب يا بتخيب، اللقطة أو طلوعك في المشهد هيتكرر مرة واحدة بس فا لازم يطلع صح وده لوحده ضغط جامد.

التوتر الشديد الي بيتعرض ليه راقص\راقصة الباليه كفيل بانه يبوظ كل حاجة لانه بلاشك انا اتدربت لشهور وحفظت الرقصة بتاعتي كويس بس في تفاصيل كتير لازم ابقي مهتمة بيها زي الدخلة بتاعتي يعني امتي ادخل وانهي tone  في المزيكا هدخل قبله او بعده، احافظ علي المسافات بيني وبين زمايلي واهم قاعدة ان لازم عيني علي زمايلي كلهم عشان الحركات او بمعني اصح التحركات الفردية تبقي متوازنة وفيها سيميترية لو ده المطلوب. التحدي هنا في انك توقف عقلك عن الاحساس بالتوتر لان التوتر بيقلل نسبة الاكسجين الي بتروح للعضلات وبالتالي جسمي هيضعف، ده غير انه بيشتت العقل فيما معناه اني هفقد تركيزي وبالتالي العرض يبوظ.

مجلة ثورة الموارد البشرية: كفرقة باليه ازاي بتعرفوا تكونوا التوافق والانسجام ده وقت العرض؟ وازاي بتقللوا من نسبة المخاطر؟

أمنية نجم: أعضاء الفريق لازم يكونوا على وفاق اغلب الوقت ويهمهم نجاح العرض أكتر من النجاح الفردي لأن مفيش نجاح فردي طول ما الراقص\الراقصة بيرقصوا ضمن فريق. كلنا بنعرف حركات بعض وحتي الرقصات الفردية بتاعت بعض برضه. البعض بيقرر يحفظها حتي لو مش مطلوب منه يأديها والبعض التاني بيكتفي بس بالمعرفة وده بيخليك طول فترة العرض في الكواليس واعي جدا بدور كل واحد وبالتالي بتقدر تسيطر اوي علي دورك.

الخطر اغلب الوقت علي المسرح في ان اتنين يخبطوا في بعض سواء بالجسم كله او بطرف معين زي الايد او الرجل في اي حركة عنيفة شوية. فا عشان نحد من ده بنحافظ علي المسافات الامنة بينا وبين بعض وادي دايما مساحة ازيد شوية لزميلتي عشان هي تكون براحتها وانا كمان براحتي ونعرف بأدي ادوارنا كويس.

نقطة كمان وهي خطورة ان الراقصين يخبطوا في بعض علي بداية الكواليس. فا احدي اهم القواعد ان محدش يقف في الكواليس الا لو دخلته الي جاية علطول وحتي لو هيدخل على المسرح فالازم يسيب مساحة معقولة في الكواليس للراقص\الراقصة الي خارج من المسرح.

مجلة ثورة الموارد البشرية: تعتبر ممارسة رقص الباليه نوع من أنواع الفن والرياضة، وده ليه تأثير على الشخصية.. لو أنتي بتشتغلي في مجال الاتش ار والتوظيف بشكل أخص في شركة ما ومن ضمن المتقدمين للوظيفة كان/كانت راقصة باليه، ايه المميزات اللي ممكن تكون متواجدة في الشخص ده؟

أمنية نجم: ده سؤال حلو اوي، في حاجات كتير بتتأصل في شخصية الراقص\الراقصة من غير ما ياخدوا بالهم والي مرييت بيه شخصيا، اني مش بفقد الامل في اي حاجة وده جه من الباليه لان كتير بنبقي بنتعلم حركة جديدة وتبقي صعبة جدا او خارج حدود قدراتي لكن بتعلم مع الوقت ان اول مرة مش هتطلع صح ولا تاني مرة ولا تالت بس ممكن تيجي رابع وممكن تتظبط اكتر في خامس مرة وممكن اعرف اعملها كويس اوي بعدها بشهر، فا اهم حاجة اني افضل احاول لاني فعلا اقدر فا دي حاجة حلوة اوي موجودة في شخصيتي من الباليه وهي الاصرار.

التوافق البدني والذهني والقدرة علي ان اعمل وافكر في كذا حاجة في نفس الوقت لان في الباليه احنا مطالبين نفكر ونخطط ونتخيل الحركة ونرتبها في دماغنا قبل ما نُقدم عليها وبعدها نشغل العقل مع الجسم وفي حركات معينة بنشغل الرجل عكس الايد لكن في نفس الوقت.

التركيز كمان لأبعد الحدود.

أعضاء الفريق لازم يكونوا على وفاق اغلب الوقت ويهمهم نجاح العرض أكتر من النجاح الفردي

مجلة ثورة الموارد البشرية: أمنية في الأول بدأتي شغفك تجاه الكتابة الإبداعية والأدبية، ودلوقتي اتجهتي لمجال كتابة الإعلانات بشكل مهني، ممكن تقوليلنا ايه أهمية كتابة الاعلانات للشركات وتأثيرها على المجال بشكل عام؟

أمنية نجم: أنا لسه بحب جدا الكتابة ومحافظة على وقتي كل يوم الي بكتب فيه لكن كتابة الاعلانات هي شغفي ككارير. كتابة الاعلانات مهمة جدا للبيزنس والمجتمع لانها بتشكل تفكيره وتحدده زي ما هي عايزه وساعات كمان بتوجهه لاختيارات معينة فا كأنك بتتحكم في الاشخاص بس بطريقة غير مباشرة، أنا بس بحب كتابة الاعلانات عشان هدفي ابقي دايما بكتب لبراند عنده قيم بيحاول يوصلها للمجتمع ومش لاقي الكلمات المناسبة.

مجلة ثورة الموارد البشرية: في شركات كتير مدركة أهمية كتابة الإعلانات، بس ممكن يواجهوا تحدي في اختيار شركة الإعلانات أو الفريلانسر المناسب، ايه ممكن تنصحي بيه الشركات دي يساعدهم في الاختيار؟

أمنية نجم: نصيحتي ان مش شرط تروح لاكتر واحد مشهور ولا شرط انك تروح لأكتر واحد سعره عالي ولا كمان الي عمل كل انواع الاعلانات، ممكن يبقي كل ده موجود لكن ميقدرش العميل يلاقي ارض وسط للتفاهم والتواصل مع الكاتب فا نصيحتي انه اكيد يشوف شغله القديم ولازم يتكلموا مع بعض عن رؤيته للبراند ويفكروا سوا ولو العميل حس ان في امكانيات للتواصل والتفاهم والاراء المشتركة حوالين البراند فا ده اختياره الانسب. نصيحتي ان يختار الكاتب المرن الي معندوش مانع في النقد والغير متحيز لشغله والي عنده موهبة.

مجلة ثورة الموارد البشرية: خلال دراستك الجامعية قررتي انك تغيري مجالك، وده قرار شجاع جدا. ممكن تحكي القصة لينا وازاي اتخذتي القرار ده؟ وايه نصايحك للطلاب عامتاً علشان يلتحقوا بمجال الدراسة المناسب لهم؟

أمنية نجم: انا بعد ما خلصت ثانوية عامة، كان نفسي ادخل فنون جميلة وقبلها كان نفسي طب “الحمدلله ان ده محصلش” ودخلت امتحانات القدرات بتاعت فنون وجبت امتياز بس للاسف كنت جاية 85% فا مجموعي مجابش ولانه قليل جدا مكنش قدامي غير المجمع في اسكندرية فا دخلت كلية اداب واهلي كانوا عايزني ادخل قسم جغرافيا بحييث اني اطلع مساحة “شبه مهندسة مساحة يعني” وده كان بعيد تماما عن اي حاجة انا بحبها بس كمعظم الاهل في مصر كانوا عايزني ادخل كلية قمة وكدة ولما اطلع مهندسة ده هيحسسهم اني انجزت حاجة في حياتي فا عشان ارضيهم دخلت فعلا قسم جغرافيا وقلت احاول بجد يمكن احبها، قعدت فيها سنة معرفتش احبها رغم اني كنت بحضر المحاضرات وبذاكر من الكتب وبحاول فعلا اجتهد بس مفيش ولا مادة حبيتها ولا استمتعت بالي بسمعه لانه بعيد تماما عن نطاق اهتماماتي فا طلعت بمادة وكان ممكن اخودها في الصيف لكن مكنتش عايزة اماطل في الوقت في حاجة انا اصلا مبحبهاش فا حولت علي قسم لغات شرقية من باب اني بحب اللغات لاني وقتها كنت بتكلم عربي وانجليزي وفرنساوي وبذاكر ألماني فا اني اضيف عليهم تركي وعبري وفارسي كان بالنسبالي حاجة ممتعة جدا يعني، وقدمت ودخلت الامتحانات والانترفيو ونجحت وقعدت في القسم ده سنتين، كنت مهتمة جدا في البداية لكن كنت حاسة ان مفيش شغف ومفيش مستقبل هطلع بيه من القسم ده، كنت حاسة ان في حاجة ناقصة بس مش عرفاها لحد ما طلعت بالعبري في السامر كورس ووقتها فهمت ان برغم حبي للغات لكن ده مش كافي ولا سبب مقنع اني ادخل قسم ادرس فيه لغات لان تعليم اللغات في القسم ده كان بيتم بطريقة فاشلة جدا تقفلك وتكرهك في اللغة اكتر ما تبقي شاطر فيها فا سقطت اول سنة والمفروض اني اعيدها. عدت تاني سنة وقبل الامتحانات بشوية سافرت تركيا عشان افهم نفسي شوية واخد وقت اني افكر واعيد تقييم حاجات كتير في حياتي ورجعت علي الامتحانات بالظبط وطبعا حاولت الم المنهج بس الموضوع كان صعب جدا فا دخلت امتحانات بعض المواد والبعض التاني طنشت لاني مش مهتمة اصلا وكنت كدة كدة اخدة قرار اني مش هكمل في القسم ده بسبب العبري بشكا خاص وطريقة التعليم بشكل عام فا طلبت احول ومشيت في الاجراءات فعلا وكان وقتها عدي تلات سنين عليا في الكلية فا الاجراءات اختلفت. وقتها حسيت ان كفاية اوي كدة انا مش عارفة انا عايزة ايه ولازم المرادي يبقي القرار صح فا ركزت شوية في انا بحب ايه يعني فعلا بحب ايه وايه الي مش بمل منه وايه الي مهتمة بيه اكتر وعرفت الاجابة فا قررت اقدم علي قسم انجليزي “والي علي فكرة فضلت احاول اقدم عليه كل سنة بدون كلل ولا ملل بس كانوا بيطلبوا دايما واسطة عشان اتقبل حتي لو المعايير مطبقة عليا” وقسم صوتيات لاني بحب الدوبلاج وكنت بعمل فويس اوفر بصوتي وقسم اعلان لاني طول عمري بحب الكتابة والاذاعة.

مشيت في الاجراءات وقلت اختار المرادي في ورق التحويل التلات اقسام دول بما اني بحبهم وعشان ابقي في الامان، عشان لأول مرة يبقي عندي خطة بديلة وحصل دخلت الامتحانات بتاعت التلات اقسام وعلي السنة دي كانوا عاملين مناهج وانترفيوهات يعني الموضوع مكنش سهل زي السنين الي قبلها يعني بس عملت كل ده، وبعد اسبوعين علي نار رحت استلم النتيجة والمفاجاة اني اتقبلت في التلات اقسام فا قررت اني اقدم علي اول قسم اختارته وهو قسم انجليزي بحيث اني ادرس الادب الانجليزي وشكسبير والي بدوره هيساعدني في حبي للكتابة.

اليوم الي رحت احول فيه وانا واقفة عند مكتب شئون الطلبة الموظفة قالتلي اني ساقطة ومفصولة من جامعة اسكندرية كلها بقالي سنة وانا معرفش ومحدش قالي وغالبا مكنتش هعرف الا لو كنت جربت حركة تحويل الاقسام، طبعا مشوفتش قدامي يعني ايه ابقي مفصولة واقدر ادخل امتحانات ويطلعلي رقم جلوس ويطلعلي نتيجة كمان.

طبعا كان الموضوع صدمة وبعدين رحت سحبت ملفي وابتديت رحلة اسبوعين بدور في جامعات مصر كلها عشان واحدة من الجامعات تقبلني لان مجموعي قليل وكمان مفصولة وبعد ما بتتفصل من كلية اداب مفيش اختيار غير حقوق ومعاهد وجامعات خاصة. طبعا مش هدخل حقوق بعد كل ده ومقدرش اتحمل تكلفة الجامعات الخاصة فا كنت تايهة بين كفرالشيخ والمنصورة والشرقية واسيوط ودمنهور لحد ما بالصدفة البحتة حد من صحابي كلمني يسأل عليا بعد سنتين من غير كلام والي انا اعتبرته اشارة من ربنا، سال عليا ولما حس اني مضايقة سألني في ايه وحكيتله واقترح عليا المعهد الي هو بيدرس فيه وهو معهد اسكندرية العالي للاعلام. طبعا مكنش عندي فرصة تانية غير اني اقبل بالمعهد ده او متعلمش اصلا فا دعبست عنه ولقيت انه معتمد وموجود في مكتب التنسيق وشهادته تعادل اعلام القاهرة فا دخلته ونجحت في سنة اولي وتانية وتالتة الحمدلله بتقديرات كويسة جدا وفاضلي سنة واتخرج الحمدلله من قسم اذاعة وتلفزيون.

ايه الي ممكن انصح بيه باقي الطلاب، انك متستغناش ابدا عن حلمك ومتجاهلش أبدا حبك لشئ معين. الوقت الي في حياتك ده بتاعك انت مش ملك لاي حد تاني فا متسمحش لحد يتحكم فيه. ادرس الحاجة الي بتحبها واعمل الحاجة الي بتحبها عشان لما بتعمل العكس بتحس انك ميت.

متخافش ابدا من انك تبدا من الصفر تاني عشان عايز توصل لحاجة معينة.

It’s never too late “literally”

مجلة ثورة الموارد البشرية: من ضمن النشاطات والأعمال اللي نجحتي فيها كانت في مجال التطوع المجتمعي، اشتغلتي مع مبادرات كتيرة وأكيد اتعلمتي حاجات مختلفة من كل تجربة. ممكن تقوليلنا موقف من اللي أثروا فيكي؟

أمنية نجم: اتعلمت اني ابقي مرنة بس في نفس الوقت انتهز الفرص الي ممكن تيجي لحد عندي، بس الواحد وهو صغير مبيبقاش دريان بأهمية كل حاجة بتيجي قدامه حتي لو كانت صغيرة فا في يوم كان معروض عليا أعمل انترفيو مع السفير البريطاني السابق في مصر وبنوتة تانية من التيم بتاعي حاولت تسبقني بخطوة رغم ان المهمة دي مطلوبة مني شخصيا فا بدل ما اخسرها وهي في التيم بتاعي، اتعلمت يوميها ابقي مرنة واعرف اتصرف في الموقف ده بذكاء اجتماعي فا قولتلها اعملي انتي كمان اسئلة ويالا بينا نطلع احنا الاتنين، كل واحد بأسئلته وبالطريقة دي هي كانت مبسوطة عشان عملت الي هي عيزاها وطلعت مع السفير علي اليوتيوب وانا كمان عملت الي كان مطلوب مني.

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It’s never too late “literally”

مجلة ثورة الموارد البشرية: أمنية تفتكري لو كنتي اكتشفتي شغفك في مجال الشغل والدراسة في وقت بدري ده كان هيفرق معاكي حالياً؟

أمنية نجم: أكيد النقطة دي كانت هتفرق معايا كتير، أنا كبرت حواليا صحاب كلهم عارفين هما بيحبوا ايه وعايزين يعملوا ايه في حياتهم وفي منهم كان محدد أهداف حياته بالسنين كمان لكن انا كنت في دنيا تانية، مش عارفة بحب ايه وعندي اهتمامات كتير اوي لكن بمل بسرعة من اي حاجة عشان كدة قضيت سنين كتير بتطوع في منظمات مجتمعية غير هادفة للربح وبتدرب في شركات في كل المجالات الي ممكن تتخيلها، انا فاكرة اني اشتغلت حتي في مطعم قبل كدة. محاولاتي لإكتشاف شغفي كانت مستميتة، فا اعتقد اني كنت هوفر السنين دي كإستثمار في مجالي الي بحبه. يعني اعتقد الفرق الوحيد كان هيبقي في “الوقت” بس بصراحة لو رجع بيا الزمن اعتقد اني هسلك نفس التجربة بسنينها وتوهانها لانها اديتني الفرصة والمساحة والوقت اني اتعلم فعلا من كل تجربة وكل تدريب وكل شغلانة وكل بني ادم قرر يعلمني حاجة عشان شافني فضولية وتايهة… كل ده كون شخصيتي وعرفني قيمة ان يبقي الانسان عنده شغف وموهبة معينة وهي انك تشتغلها وتقدر قيمتها لان الشغف هو الحاجة الي بتحسسك إنك حي.

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Interview with Keith F Watson -Online Tutor ICS Learn

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“We feature our student success stories in our monthly Student Newsletter, as we know this inspires learners to keep going with their studies, as well as showing them how other students overcame the challenges they faced” Keith F Watson – ICS Learn

INTERVIEWERS: MARIHAM MAGDY & MAHMOUD MANSI

The Interviewee: Keith F Watson, LL.M, Chartered FCIPD, FCMI, FLPI, FITOL

Job Title: Owner 360 HR Solutions and Online Tutor ICS Learn

Keith’s qualifications include LL.M (Employment Law and Practice) and CIPD. A tutor since 2007, Keith worked in the financial services sector from 2006 in a variety of senior HR roles before setting up his consultancy in 2016. He’s actively involved with the CIPD in various capacities, including being a past branch chair, member of Council and a voluntary membership assessor. He is currently a member of the Professional Standards Panel (Chair) and a member of the Qualifications Advisory Group, as well as a member of the Employment Tribunal. Keith is also an Equality Act Assessor in the Sheriff Courts.

1-HR Revolution Middle East: The CIPD has become one of the most important certifications in the HR and the L&D field. Would you please explain to our readers the scientific value of the CIPD Certification, as well as its impact on the professional career progression in those fields?

ICS Learn: HR is an art underpinned by science, and the CIPD qualification benefits individuals and organisations by going beyond the technical aspects of people management and development. 

Whilst the qualification requires a robust technical knowledge across a range of topics, the real strength lies in the requirement to adapt that knowledge to the business environment and become a critical thinker who can devise best-fit solutions.

There is no doubt that the increasing requirement by organisations for their HR teams to have CIPD qualifications is due to those already with these qualifications having demonstrated the effective application of their technical knowledge in the workplace, rather than taking answers from a book and trying to make them fit situations where they simply don’t work


2- HR Revolution Middle East: From your experience, what are the most recurring challenges do learners have in completing their CIPD studies? What recommendations would you give them to help facilitate their time management for study?

ICS Learn: One of the most reoccurring challenges is time management. New learners – especially those studying part-time – do sometimes underestimate the time commitment in undertaking a professional qualification. Whilst we generally recognise the time necessary for classroom attendance, be it in-person or virtually, we often forget about the additional time required for self-study, research, and assignments – all of which are critical to our success.

There are only 24 hours in a day, 7 days in a week, and even in lockdown, there are very few people claiming to have a lot of free time. Therefore, we must decide (ideally in advance) what activities we are going to put aside for the duration of our studies.

We all have different approaches to learning, so it’s important to free up the time when we’re going to be most effective, be that early in the morning, lunchtime, evening or later at night. Some people study better in short bursts, whereas others prefer to set aside a specific day at the weekend. There is no right or wrong way to study, it’s simply a question of when works best for you.  

Another reoccurring challenge for students looking to complete their CIPD qualification is understanding the question set. Whilst it is never the intention of an examiner to confuse a student with a question, it does sometimes happen. For example, it’s often said that businesses working in English are divided by a common language and HR practice is no different. An SME, for instance, can be a “small medium enterprise” or a “subject matter expert”. To avoid confusion, the first step is to read the question not once, not twice but at least three times to understand what has been written. If there is the slightest doubt as to what is being asked, seek clarification from your tutor.

3- HR Revolution Middle East:  To what extent do you believe that the body of knowledge of the CIPD Certifications can be applied to practical work in different countries?

ICS Learn: Whilst the legal aspects of the CIPD qualification are based on UK law, most CIPD qualifications are very general so that they can be applied internationally. Being that culture varies from jurisdiction to jurisdiction, the core elements of HR practice remain the same in that we help support organisations in achieving their objectives through good people management and development practices.

The breadth of learning is a distinct advantage in all jurisdictions, as is knowing about practice and regulations in other jurisdictions. Given that laws and regulations vary over time, being able to identify and apply relevant regulations in an assignment is a valuable skill to have regardless of whether the same regulations apply in the countries we support. I have often joked that if I was ever to become an employee again, I would wish my contract to be based on Indonesian law as in that jurisdiction employees must agree to their dismissal!  

4- HR Revolution Middle East: As an Instructor, how did your journey with ICS start? What makes you most passionate about this role?

ICS Learn: I started my journey with ICS Learn more than 20 years ago as a CIPD student at which time, in addition to assignments, each module was tested by exam. Around 14 years ago, I received an email from one of my former ICS Learn tutors asking if I would be interested in attending an Advanced Employment Law workshop she was running as she was looking to retire from these workshops and she had been asked to look for a potential successor. Having literally that weekend just finished my dissertation for my master’s degree in Employment Law, for the first time in years I had a “free” weekend.

As I always enjoyed such workshops I readily agreed to attend. However, on arrival, I received a message that the tutor was unfortunately unable to attend and I was instead asked to run the workshop! Perhaps it was being thrown in at the deep end with no time to worry about anything, but the workshop was a great success with all the attendees passing their Employment Law exam a few months later and my having fully acquired the tutoring bug.

Over the years much has changed, and I have had the pleasure of running training sessions and workshops on a variety of CIPD and non-CIPD topics both virtually and in numerous countries including Singapore, India, Sudan, Nigeria, and of course in the Middle East both in UAE and KSA.

Whilst HR and the world has evolved, facilitating learning in others whilst learning from students and their personal workplace experiences is as inspiring and exciting today as it was 14 years ago.

5- HR Revolution Middle East: As a learner how did the CIPD qualification change your life?

ICS Learn: Without a doubt, gaining a CIPD qualification has been life-changing and has allowed me to have not only a successful career in HR within financial services but to successfully run my consultancy for the last 5 years. I must admit that being able to work internationally in so many different regions has been a distinct bonus and certainly embeds the learning that no matter what we do in HR there is always more than one way of doing it.

6- HR Revolution Middle East: What special tips would you share with professionals unable to choose the appropriate CIPD Certification Level for them? How does ICS Learn help learners in taking this step?

ICS Learn: Our advice would always be to chat to our CIPD Course Advisors, whether that be through our website, email, or on the phone. Their job is to talk through your experience, ambitions, and previous education to make sure that you choose the right CIPD course for you.

7- HR Revolution Middle East: What are the most common challenges CIPD students face? What pieces of advice do you have for them?

ICS Learn: As detailed in question 2, the most common challenge is time. We must be willing to accept that in taking on a new challenge we must set aside some of our current activities. Short term pain for long term gain!

8- HR Revolution Middle East: What should be the “competencies” of a CIPD student in order to excel and accomplish the degree?

ICS Learn: Self-discipline, commitment, curiosity, an open mindset, and of course an ability to understand and write in business English 

9- HR Revolution Middle East: ICS Learn cares to publish students’ success stories with different certifications and how they got opportunities to progress substantially in their careers. How often do you refer to those stories to encourage reluctant learners to finish their studies?

ICS Learn: We feature our student success stories in our monthly Student Newsletter, as we know this inspires learners to keep going with their studies, as well as showing them how other students overcame the challenges they faced. It’s a great way for students to learn from each other!

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Interview with Mr. Vijay Gandhi, Regional Director of Korn Ferry Digital

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“2021 is here and there has been never a tipping point like this before for governments and organizations to transform how they work, engage the employees and service their clients.  It is this mix of internal and external challenges that will also create opportunities for leaders to make a difference as we embark upon a new calendar year.” Mr. Vijay Gandhi

Interviewer: Mariham Magdy

Brief Biography about the Interviewee:

Mr. Vijay Gandhi has worked with human resource teams for over 20 years to provide them with tools, benchmarks, insights and data to help them design high level global HR frameworks and make decisions for local executive teams, remuneration committees and board of directors in public and privately owned companies across different sectors. He oversees the commercial activities of Reward & Benefits in KF Digital across Europe, Middle East and Africa.  

Vijay has an MBA from Durham University (UK) and BBA in Finance & International Business from University of Wisconsin-Madison (USA). He joined Korn Ferry in 2001 in Dubai and has worked in EMEA and Asia region. In May 2018, he was honored with Forbes “Top 50 Indian Executives in Arab World”

1.HR Revolution Middle East: Mr. Vijay, welcome to HR Revolution Middle East Magazine. It’s a great pleasure to have the opportunity to make this interview with you.

As the Regional Director for Korn Ferry Digital, we are keen to learn from you more about KF Digital, how do Korn Ferry’s digital applications help organizations to transform or enhance their organizational strategy?

Mr. Vijay Gandhi:

Through the Korn Ferry Digital platform, our clients gain direct access to our data, insights, analytics and digital solutions – enabling them to drive performance in their organizations in a scalable way through their people, using one enterprise-wide framework and language of talent.  Our digital solutions cover the whole talent journey. So, whether it’s developing a new talent strategy or reward program, making informed decisions about hiring or developing talent from within the organization, getting the right people on board, or even collecting feedback on how engaged employees really are, right across the organization – Korn Ferry Digital provides the answers.

Our solutions serve as an integrated platform that gives clients direct access to the data, insights and analytics. Clients benefit from one enterprise-wide talent framework and language that helps drive organizational performance through people.

2- HR Revolution Middle East: To what extent can we trust the results of the digital assessments? How can organizations use the data that Korn Ferry collects to make intelligent hiring, reward, development decisions?

Mr. Vijay Gandhi:

Korn Ferry Digital is fueled by the most comprehensive and up-to-date people and organization databases.  This data provides the DNA for our digital solutions, bringing a research-based foundation to underpin quality and consistency in your HR practices.  Over 4 billion data points have been collected, including: 

  • Over 69 million assessment results
  • 8 million employee engagement survey responses
  • Rewards data for 20 million employees across 25,000 organizations and 130+ countries

We’ve pulled the data together into a comprehensive set of actionable and dynamic Success Profiles.  Success Profiles define “what good looks like” and include data around three dimensions – the accountabilities of a role, the associated capabilities to perform these responsibilities, and the traits and drivers that are characteristic of a person who will thrive in this role.

Organizations have access to over 4,000 individual Success Profiles across 30,000 job titles – and we are continually updating and adding new profiles, so you get to leverage the latest thinking on emerging roles.  The results are therefore based on deep insight and research.

3- HR Revolution Middle East: Mr. Vijay, we are eager to learn from you more about the success story behind honoring you as one of the Top 50 Indian Leaders in Arab World by Forbes Middle East in 2018 Region’s greatest success stories as Regional Director at Korn Ferry Digital.

Mr. Vijay Gandhi:

I am a long-time resident of the Arab region, where my family roots go back 60 years, before the UAE federation was formed.  Knowing the culture, people and dynamics of working in the Arab world has been natural as this has been home to our family where my kids are the 5th generation.  For more than 20 years, I have worked closely with human resource teams in the Arab world to execute their talent strategy.  A lot has changed in this period in HR function itself which was regarded as a payroll function few decades ago.  Today, HR and People strategy are board room discussions where HR plays a strategic role in driving workforce performance.

In these positively growing and changing times, my focus was on leveraging tools, benchmarks, insights and data to design high-level global HR frameworks for senior executives in the region – helping them more effectively manage their talent.  We have built successful client partnerships in the region which has made Korn Ferry as a go to organizational consulting firm. 

4- HR Revolution Middle East: For over 20 years, you have overseen the activities of pay, talent, surveys and listening products across Europe, Middle East and Africa. What are the unique characteristics of the Middle East organizations especially in talent and pay management? How does we differ from other regions as Europe & Africa?

Mr. Vijay Gandhi:

Change is taking place rapidly in the world of work with any organizations taking unprecedented steps to remain relevant and connected to their people , their customers and society. In the Middle East we have seen many companies implement temporary pay-cuts. Diversified conglomerates have shifted their employees from one division to another to balance the demand and supply.  There is no denial that the way we work is changing and organizations have had to prepare a blueprint for the unexpected.  This year it’s coronavirus.  Next time, and there will be a next time, it could be a natural calamity, a recession, talent flight or something else unforeseen. 

  1. Redefining the nature of work:  Even today most organizations in the Gulf region are measuring success or performance using the metric of attendance.  There is a mismatch between modern, flexible ways of working and traditional ways of organizing and rewarding work. To close this gap, organizations need new approaches that fit today and can flex for the future. New and evolving technologies allow organizations to operate more effectively and more efficiently. They do this by preparing people to work more productively and by introducing virtual ways of doing things that previously required physical presence.   Some organizations in the region have started tocreate “flexible teams” for specific projects, and then dismantling  them once the project is complete.
  2. Moving towards a liquid workforce:  HR laws in the Middle East region have undergone change in the last 3 years to allow for part-time employees, internships and with the spring of an independent freelance community offering specialized professional services which were rare to find few years ago.   In the future, we will see more organizations tailoring their resource requirements to the needs of the labor market. Organizations will move towards a liquid workforce to capture the best talent regardless of source or nature of contract which may not be employed full-time.
  3. Splitting time and skills:  A few global companies are making use of employees’ skills and motivation within the confines of a traditional role.  They have developed a SharePoint platform where employees can give up to 20% of their time to projects outside of their core role. The 80/20 approach allows for flexibility without the contractual implications of making significant changes to roles and functions. The projects range from large, like supporting big corporate initiatives, to small, like moderating a series of workshops. These smaller projects may last just a few weeks and take up less than 20% of a person’s working time. Trainees, called ‘Start-up’ participants, also work according to the 80/20 principle. That means they follow a set rotation programme for four days of the week and meet on Fridays to work on joint projects.
  4. Rethinking Reward:  Even after right-sizing in many Middle East companies, there has been a significant impact of grade/title inflation on performance. In the short-term it is important to preserve operating capacity in the event demand returns to normal sooner than expected by managing leaves and cutting pay for a limited time.  In the medium-term, organizations will have to adjust individual performance incentives as conditions normalize and consider crisis-related spot awards where applicable.  In the long-term, organizations will have to not only maintain awards for top-performers but also consider tying bonuses and incentives to crisis-related health and-safety metrics.

With no ‘rules of the game’, and such rapid evolution, it’s not surprising that many companies feel they don’t know where or how to start. They need fresh thinking and new approaches on a whole range of topics – including how to create a ‘new deal’ that works for their people.

5- HR Revolution Middle East: The digital transformation has changed totally the way businesses make decisions.  Given that almost every organization has been forced into a new way of working, how can they navigate through a new normal?  

Mr. Vijay Gandhi:

The positive new is that, apart from solving immediate effects of the crisis, we have seen a resilience to operate from home by employees and employers moving from “no flexible hours” to “you can work remotely if the job doesn’t require you to come to the office”.

Whilst it’s great to move to more flexibility, we may be going over the top to think that this will be the norm for all employee segments.  Let me share some of the discussions with HR professionals in last few months in the region.

  1. Leadership matters and they want to be visible with the workforce.  Ask any leader when do they have the most impact? It’s when they are spending time with their people to engage with them and enable them by listening to their concerns. 
  2. There were aspects of our lives – work, family, friends – which were separate but now happening all in one physical space.  The self-complexity theory shows that individuals become vulnerable to negative feelings when these social activities and goals aren’t differentiated.
  3. Certain roles in healthcare, manufacturing, hospitality sectors cannot work remotely, and fantastic efforts have been made to make the workplace safe.
  4. Sales and Business development were areas identified as most dependent on face-to-face meetings.  According to Harvard Business research, in-person meetings were seen as most effective for:
    1. Negotiating important contracts (82%)
    2. Interviewing senior staff for key positions (81%)
    3. Understanding and listening to important customers (69%)

Although there are many reasons why video conferencing works well to stay connected in isolation and keep dispersed teams connected and aligned, latest research shows they wear on the psyche in complicated ways.  Psychologists say a new phenomenon “video call fatigue” is emerging.  It describes the feeling of being worn out by back-to-back virtual meetings and having to perform for the camera by over-scheduling ourselves.

So, whilst working from home since March 2020 was considered as a great move from being non-flexible to trusting people, it’s now time to rationalize our thinking.  The answer lies somewhere in the middle by being flexible and not drifting like nomads too. We cannot take all home and it won’t be forever. 

6- HR Revolution Middle East: How did all the twists and turns occurred in 2020 changed the traditional way organizations used to manage pay? Do you expect that businesses would return to the normal management of pay in 2021?

Mr. Vijay Gandhi:

Shifting to “people” priorities in 2021

2020 will be a fable for us to share with generations to come.  It is a year which has revolutionized the way we work and adapt to uncertainty.  A year which started with negativity around jobs and pay cuts. Life came to a stand-still.  Organizations who have survived the pandemic have shown tremendous resilience and agility to adapt to tough times.  As costs were taken out of the business in the first half of the year, we have seen higher productivity and the drive to restore profitability.  It was also a year where there remained no doubt that that the most critical driver for any organization was its workforce.

2021 is here and there has been never a tipping point like this before for governments and organizations to transform how they work, engage the employees and service their clients.  It is this mix of internal and external challenges that will also create opportunities for leaders to make a difference as we embark upon a new calendar year.

Reforms

Transformation in business set-up and labour reforms were on top of the agenda in 2020.  The Labour Reform Initiative (LRI) brought into action by MHRSD in Saudi under the National Transformation Program (NTP) has swung the focus back onto shared services and their significance in the Saudi business world. This initiative has not only set a strong precedent for the future of workers in the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia (KSA) but also carved a structured model for businesses looking to hire personnel. Similarly, there were 2 landmark moves in United Arab Emirates (UAE)

  • allowing foreign investors to own local companies without the need for an Emirati sponsor will open doors for more FDI and greater business opportunities.
  • allowing professionals to reside and work in Dubai residency rule was a big boon for professionals in workplaces where they are delivering or leading teams remotely.  

The road ahead for employees working in this region looks bright as these reforms would strengthen labour competencies, enrich the work environment, and put together an inviting job market.  The flexibility will help employers in 2021 to drive innovations, provide access to more talent, drive performance and results regardless of where the team is located in the region.

Empathy

Leaders will have to go beyond showing interest in the development of everyone and be empathetic towards employees who survived the crisis with them in 2020.  In fact, the ‘Global Workplace Study 2020’ by ADP Research Institute shows that employees are approximately 13 times more likely to be resilient when more workplace disruption occurs. Empathy was shown by employees in many ways e.g.  working from home in different circumstances or taking a pay cut to help companies save further job cuts. 

Technology innovation is here to stay

Organizations in both the public and private sectors had to make a change in the way they work and move to digitization.  Another conundrum we are presently facing is the real-estate impacts of employees desiring greater work-life flexibility. It’s unlikely that office spaces will disappear overnight, but rather a greater integration of virtual and in-person work is right around the corner. The recent decision by Dubai Government to work-from-home comes at the back of flexible working hours announced in April 2020. Workplace flexibility works best when implemented to address both the organization’s need to for a leaner workforce and employees’ need for work/life support.

Balancing wellness

The social element of your workplace has likely taken on a much different look in 2021. You may have employees in a social distance-friendly environment, employees working from home, or a mix of both.  Organizations will have to find ways to encourage them to stay connected while being physically disconnected.  Even before the pandemic COVID-19 had entered our vocabulary, burnout, stress and anxiety were significant issues in the workplace, and society generally.  Once we throw the mental health impact into the mix, and work-related stress is likely to reach staggering levels.  Going into 2021, leaders must promote the mental wellbeing and invest into benefits which will bring people together in a different way.

7- HR Revolution Middle East: What final tips would you give to business leaders at the beginning of 2021 with all the apprehensions and fears they have for the new wave of covid-19?

Mr. Vijay Gandhi:

Technology will continue to dominate the workplace and improve efficiencies.  However, the most valuable services in the marketplace will always be done better by humans. In an era defined by crisis, where emotional intelligence, compassion, resilience, and morality may prove more important than ever before, the future of work is human. If business is about humans, the future of work must be too.

One thing to look forward to in 2021 from job and career perspective is slow change.  Disruption has already happened.  However, more often and less discussed are the small changes occurring each day that eventually add up to huge impacts. The present moment is worthy of your attention.

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Interview with Meiraj Hussain, Head of Corporate Support & Group HR at Al Masaood

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Interviewer: Mariham Magdy

“An open and progressive business organizational culture is described as having a healthy work environment where employees feel valued and are recognized as fundamental to the success of an organization” Meiraj Hussain

Brief Biography about the Interviewee:

Meiraj Hussain, Head of Corporate Support and Group HR
Meiraj Hussain joined Al Masaood as Group Head of Human Resources in 2017, bringing over 20 years of professional experience as HR Leader across multiple industries such as Automotive, FMCG, Manufacturing, IT, Services, Real Estate, and Trading. Prior to joining Al Masaood, Meiraj has managed the Human Resources function in both multinational corporations and family-owned businesses across UK, Europe, and the Middle East.
In his current role, Meiraj places great emphasis on talent management, employee-experience, high-performance culture, and leadership excellence development. He is an advocate of building a progressive work culture where trust is the backbone of relationships and creating a workplace wherein employee empowerment and engagement plays a crucial role. Meiraj strongly believes in the digitization of systems and processes, thus, leading to better business results. Moreover, Meiraj has played an extensive role in the Emiratization initiative with the Ministry of Human Resources & Emiratization (MoHRE) to ensure top-tier UAE Nationals are recruited and retained within Al Masaood, consequently resulting Al Masaood to become a proud Platinum Partner with MoHRE.

HR Revolution Middle-East Magazine: Meiraj welcome to HR Revolution Middle East, we are so happy to make this interview with you. You have extensive experience in different industries such as automotive, FMCG, manufacturing, IT, services, real estate, and trading in both multinational corporations and family-owned businesses across the UK, Europe, and the Middle East. How does HRM differ according to the industry, and also according to the business type (multinational corporations and family-owned businesses)?

Meiraj Hussain: Across industries, Human Resources Management (HRM) is a critical part of business operations that focuses on unleashing the people’s best potentials and building a work culture where employees can truly flourish. From process improvement and employee experience enhancement to talent management and performance, HR professionals, as a success partner and enabler, play a diverse role in any organization regardless of business type.

The difference, however, lies in organizational culture. While multinationals have robust policies and processes in place, local family-owned companies are often more agile and faster in implementing the best practices.

HR Revolution Middle-East Magazine: Meiraj, I loved so much this statement in your bio: “He is an advocate of building progressive work culture.” How can we build a “progressive work culture?” What advice would you share with other HR professionals about that?

Meiraj Hussain: An open and progressive business organizational culture is described as having a healthy work environment where employees feel valued and are recognized as fundamental to the success of an organization. All workers have so much to offer and contribute, but, oftentimes, they are constrained by internal dynamics, poor leadership, and weak policies designed to create “carbon copies” instead of celebrating and unleashing individual ideas and potentials. Another equally important feature of progressive work culture is employee engagement. As humans, we can easily lose our motivation, which translates to poor performance and low productivity in the workplace. In such a case, HR professionals can steer the employees back to the path of motivation and engagement by taking quick and corrective actions that effectively address employee sentiments and issues.

HR Revolution Middle-East Magazine: Digital disruption is one of the most important challenges facing organizations nowadays. To what extent shall organizations shift to the digitization of work processes? How would this lead to better business results? What considerations shall they take in this transformation process?

Meiraj Hussain: At this age and time, digitalization is considered a business enabler. It is for this reason that businesses should consider transforming through automation their time-consuming and mundane processes. By freeing their employees from doing repetitive tasks, they can shift their attention to business-critical tasks such as in the areas enhancing customer experience and driving revenue. For the HR department, the staff can focus their time on core areas of performance, leadership, employee development and people support.

HR Revolution Middle-East Magazine: Employee engagement is always an important topic among HR leaders worldwide. Would you share with us how Al Masaood can use its strategy as a tool to empower the employees and engage them in its success journey?

Meiraj Hussain: Communication is the backbone of employee empowerment and engagement. As such, we consider it important to know the sentiments of our employees so that the management can act and address them accordingly. We measure employee sentiments through surveys regularly conducted at the business unit and corporate support levels. Additionally, through the joint efforts of the HR department and the Marketing and Communications office, Al Masaood’s strategy, organizational viewpoints and milestones, and challenges are communicated to the employees across departments to provide clarity about their role and impact on the organization’s success under the guidance of their respective managers and leaders.

HR Revolution Middle-East Magazine: Meiraj, you played an extensive role in the Emiratization initiative of the Ministry of Human Resources & Emiratization (MOHRE). Can you walk us through the Emiratization initiatives Al Masaood has recently taken?

Meiraj Hussain: In response to the directives of the country’s wise leaders and as per the decision of its Board of Directors, Al Masaood has fully expressed its strong support for the Emiratization initiative. More and more Emiratis continue to join our employees of different nationalities. Al Masaood’s Emiratisation program comprises four main pillars: the Internship program, the Functional Training program, the Scholarship Program, and Job opportunities; which all aim to enhance the skills of university students, fresh graduates, and experienced Emiratis, and equip them with the required competencies across business units and corporate support departments. Our Emiratization journey has begun two years ago, starting with offering UAE nationals internship opportunities and training programs. We have also ramped up our recruitment drives in universities as well as formed partnerships with vocational institutes such as Abu Dhabi Vocational Education and Training Institute (ADVETI) to advance the employment of Emirati youth. The UAE Government’s measure to close the salary gap between the public and private sectors is a major boost to our Emiratization efforts as well. In recognition of the intensified Emiratization initiatives across the Al Masaood Group, we have achieved the Platinum Partner status given by the MoHRE. Rest assured that we will continue to recruit local talents, invest in their skills development, and provide them with opportunities for growth in a progressive and fast-paced work environment.

HR Revolution Middle-East Magazine: Meiraj, you wrote a series of very interesting articles, posted on your LinkedIn profile. One of the controversial articles you wrote is “The Inglorious 6 – HR Types to Avoid.” What made you write this article? What important traits shall HR professionals have, on the contrary, from your point of view?

Meiraj Hussain: “The Inglorious- 6” article went viral and I received comments and feedback from global HR thought leaders. The article uses humor to identify some of the common pitfalls HR leaders should avoid.

HR, as a profession, is going through an identity crisis and, unfortunately, many professionals may not make it through in the course of this transformation. HR is an art and it’s understood through practice; HR is learned through doing and mentorship. Further, there is an unclaimed territory in organizations that other corporate support functions are not addressing. This territory can be claimed by HR.

But the biggest enemy facing HR today is mediocrity. It could be mediocrity of people, leadership or processes, which, in turn, leads to the mediocrity of performance and business results. Leaders need to determine the high standards that their respective organizations should adhere to for them to compete successfully in their markets. This is because consumers are now less and less forgiving of companies that deliver average value in terms of experience and engagement.

HR Revolution Middle-East Magazine: Finally, what should be the focus of HR initiatives in organizations nowadays?

Meiraj Hussain: HR initiatives should be in sync with the company’s overall growth strategy. Once this is clear, the implementation plan can be developed. The initiatives can cover talent and leadership; training and development; processes and technology; performance; culture; and talent acquisition and management, among others. The major consideration in executing these initiatives is to identify how they support the leadership in its efforts to attain the vision of the organization. It is important to note as well that HR acts as the voice of reason with leaders. It should be able to challenge management decisions and resolve conflict for the good of all. Moreover, HR is the voice against the hidden enemy of mediocrity.

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